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Dangers of Blog Commenting

OR, blog spamming, whatever you call it! ;)

Now, I would be honest with ya: this post is going to hurt some of those "sensitive people", so unless you think you can swallow and digest the bitter truth, please don’t read it. :D

For many a times, when you might think that you have left a really nice comment on a blog, the blogger may actually think that it is spam and mark you as such. Now don’t ask me why they would do so: some bloggers are total morons, and they simply ruin it all for the rest of the community. Some possible causes of why a blogger may think your comment to be spam are:

Greater spam flags: By all means, avoid doing the following (or end up on the Akismet blacklist):

a) Leaving a link in the body of your comment: Sometimes there are links that add value to a blog post, and then there are other times when the link happens to be a pure advertisement. Some bloggers know how to distinguish between the two, but some others simply HATE third-party links in comments. ;)

b) Using a company name, keyword or domain name as YOUR name: That is really a very bad practice IMO because it throws some good light on the type of person you are/the type of business you represent. When commenting on a blog, you need to be REAL! I am not asking you to use your real name all the time. You can use a pen name if you like but for God’s sake, don’t use SEO-ed names (UNLESS the blogger specifically invites you to do so, such as, by using the KeywordLuv plugin – in this connection, you may also want to read the new nofollow policy of the plugin author). On one hand, it offers you very little SEO benefits-I am yet to be proven otherwise; on the other hand, a lot of bloggers hate SEO-ed names (yes, even IM bloggers too) and would either delete your comment or flag it as spam.

I have often asked some of the regular commenters here to use their real names instead of using a keyword-rich "name", and most of them do heed my advice! Now, don’t get me wrong; I would approve any comment that is useful, regardless of what name you use! But if you think on a bigger level => I am not the only blogger in cyberspace, and as I have already said, a lot of bloggers simply frown upon SEO-ed names (some even categorically ask commenters not to use keywords as names, while others ask the commenters to use the KeywordLuv format).

c) Leaving irrelevant comments: Some people don’t really read the whole blog post before commenting, while others are just too lazy to type a new comment for every blog and would rather just copy-and-paste the same comment they are posted  in a previous blog. Yet others simply comment for the purpose of getting a dofollow backlink.

d) Being a true a**hole spammer: Now, apart from the obvious spammers, this also indicates that special group of people who leave one-liner comments on blogs like:

"Thank you. Nice post. Will be back soon for more"

They either do so because they are just too lazy to read the full blog post (or at the very least read some of the previous comments to the post) before commenting, or are running short of time because they need to comment on 100 more blogs before they can go to bed (the motto of these people is usually "I have to comment on an x number of blogs today, by hook or by crook, so that I can get an x number of backlinks from Google™" rather than "Let me read these blogs and see if I can find something useful there").

As a matter of fact, a lot of bloggers simply frown upon such one-liner comments. Why? Not only such comments add no value to the blog, but also this is a well-known tactic often used by "SEO spammers" to get a linkback to their sites (which often happens to be a MFA site). So yeah, unless you have nothing of value to add, don’t comment. ;)

Lesser Spam Flags: Usually, the majority of the bloggers ignore such things, but there are some who are very particular about which type of comment gets approved on their blog:

a) Leaving a link in the URL field of the comment form: You would think that is pretty legit, and so do I, but obviously some bloggers beg to differ (especially, the bloggers in niche markets to whom ANY LINK, commercial or not, is spam unless your site is thematically related to theirs, and even that part is doubtful, because if you happen to be their direct competitor, count on your luck to be NOT flagged as a spammer)!

b) Imperfect Language: Unless you are a native English speaker, chances are that you cannot speak "perfect English" (for example, I am not  a native English speaker and that fact clearly shows in my long boring articles :P ). If you are just "good enough", you will pass, but there are some people who write terribly poor English. Believe it or not, imperfect language could also get your comment being deleted or worse, flagged as spam, especially if the blogger happens to be a prude! ;)

So, if you have not already, it is a good time to hone up your language a bit, if only for the sake of getting your comments approved! ;)

Back to the original topic: Akismet is built in such a way that you are virtually at the mercy of the blogger’s whims and fancies. Bottom-line, if a blogger thinks that your comment is spam, he would mark it as such, a few more such flags from him and other bloggers and your business would virtually end. Here is how (more details can be found here):

-Your email would be added to the Akismet Blacklist
-Your website URL would also end up in the Akismet blacklist.

Now, a lot of people say that Akismet actually uses a combination of different factors, such as the commenter’s name, email, URL, etc., for determining whether a comment is spam or not. I would give you a few examples of how I have seen Akismet work in real life:

Scenario 1- blacklisted email+ Non-blacklisted URL=>comment flagged as spam

Scenario 2- Non-blacklisted email+blacklisted URL=>comment marked as spam

Scenario 3- blacklisted email+blacklisted URL=>comment marked as spam

I don’t think the commenter’s name triggers Akismet’s filters as much as the commenter’s URL or email. :)

Now, how do you know that you have been blacklisted by Akismet?

a) You click here to post a nice comment on my blog (you can also conduct this experiment on your own blog, provided of course that you have Akismet™ installed).

b) If you get a blank white page (instead of something along the lines of: "Your comment is under moderation" message) then your comment is surely in the spam queue! Assuming that you have not added any vi*gra-type of word, or lots of links in the comment body, the only safe conclusion could be that either your email or URL is on Akismet’s blacklist! :D

So, what can you do about it:

a) You can choose to comment only on those blogs that are thematically-related to your website (and hope that your chosen niche has enough high pagerank™ bloggers to help your website rank high in Google :P ).

b) When commenting, you can link only to non-commercial pages of your website.

c) You can use a real name instead of a keyword or company name (UNLESS the blogger explicitly permits the use of keywords as names)

d) You can avoid leaving commercial links in the body of comments 

e) You can keep changing your email address regularly

You can do all of the above and still have your website blacklisted by Akismet, so here is a sixth thing you can do:

f) Go to Akismet’s site and beg of them to release your website from the clutches of their blacklist because you are totally legit, blah blah blah., and hope that they actually respond to your request (although I have not tried this route, I would say from experience that their chances of doing this is as
much as that of Google’s un-banning your website). ;) Before you ask me, I have not tried this option because I don’t like the idea of begging-or worse, begging to fascists (for lack of a better term)! :P

Of course, I still love Akismet for how it protects me from spammers and as such, I consider it an indispensable tool for any WordPress blog, so much so that I (or for that matter, several other bloggers too, I am sure) would (even if grudgingly) pay Automattic to avail themselves of this service, if some day it really ceases to be free. :D

Okay, let me tell you of some of the other "preventive measures" you can take so as to keep your website from getting into Akismet’s blacklist.

g) You can avoid buying lists of "high PR blogs": Almost always those "high PR blogs" would be on "high alert" (being "spammed enough" already) and rather aggressive in flagging comments, even the legit ones, as spam! If you don’t believe me, learn it the hard way. :P

h) Contact the blogger: If you know the blogger personally, just tell them that you recently posted a nice comment on a certain article but it seems that the comment might be in their spam queue. If they care about you/your comment, they would look into the spam queue and retrieve your comment from there; if they don’t, they you can safely assume that either they don’t care about you, or that your comment has been arbitrarily deleted by Akismet instead of being sent to the spam/moderation queue (this happens if the blogger has the "Automatically discard spam comments on posts older than a month" option enabled under "Akismet Configuration"). In either situation, there is not much you can do! :P

i) Choose the right outsourcer: Even if you are not a spammer, your website can still end up on Akismet’s backlist if the person you have outsourced blog commenting to spams other blogs. Generally, don’t outsource to those who charge too low for comments (you get what you pay for), and avoid hiring blog commenters from the countries that are known hubs of spammers (now, I am not listing any country here for obvious reasons, but a quick Google search should give you the names of those countries anyways).

j) Categorically avoid WordPress blogs: As far as I can tell, Akismet is most widely used in WordPress blogs, the second biggest user (probably) being Punbb. Thankfully, not all Punbb forum owners use Akismet, but if you get an error message like "This post has been marked as spam and deleted by Akismet" you know that your website(s) is really on Akismet’s blacklist! ;)

How to recognize a WordPress blog: Well, on a WordPress blog, when you click on the "Submit Comment" button of a comment form without actually filling up the form fields, you should see an error page. The page’s title would be like:

WordPress=>Error

And the page URL would be something like:

http://domainname.com/wp-comments-post.php

Where domainname.com is the blog’s domain name.

Hey, but please don’t avoid commenting on my blog okay, even though it runs on WordPress+Akismet (this is because I try my best to rescue all legit comments from the spam queue :P )!

k) And of course, don’t be a spammer! (but that was obvious, was not it?) ;)

Could Akismet Be Better?

You have to think that just like any software, Akismet cannot think and act like humans; as such, it is bound to have flaws. Basically, from the little I know, a software can work on three types of algorithm:

a) An arbitrary algorithm (where the primary algorithm is first created arbitrarily by the software developer, then enhanced, again arbitrarily, based on user feedback)

b) A user-based algorithm (where the primary algorithm is created based on the inputs by a group of users)

c) A combination of (a) and (b)

Presently I think Akismet relies too heavily on user-based algorithm; as such, blog commenters are subjected to the bloggers’ whims and fancies. If a couple of bloggers think that a certain commenter is a spammer, all the other bloggers are also forced to think so. I believe it could do better by relying less on user-based feedback and creating its own arbitrary system of spam-terminator (based on DNS blacklists, RBL, stopforumspam.com database, etc.-but NOT spamcop-we all know how flawed it is) , then deciding on which type of user-feedback to consider when upgrading the software.
The reason why Google™ is Google is because much of its algorithm is arbitrary! Imagine what would happen if its search algorithm was dictated by the searchers? There would be utter chaos!

(Note to self: This is why I prefer forum spamming over blog spamming; at least that way it is only my email address and not the website too which ends on a blacklist :P => just kidding of course, but don’t forget that just as there is Akismet for blogs, there is also the Stopforumspam.com blacklist for forums; there are also several anti-spam plugins of WordPress which actually retrieve the spam data from stopforumspam.com database and use it – this means that if someone spams forums and then uses the same email to spam blogs as well, they have a 99% chance of being flagged as spammers!)

Now, after writing such a "bloody" article, I would not really expect a nice comment from you, but I would be really grateful if you click here to post one. You feedback means a lot to me. Thanks! :D

49 Comments

  1. David Schmidt

    I go through the same frustration on one of my blogs which gets about 80 or so comments a day and most if not all of them are “Hey nice blog” or offer really no value.

    I was told once any comment is a good comment but I am at the point to where I will approve about 1 out of 20 at this point.

  2. Marketing Strategies and Ideas

    These are some really great items. I find myself guilty of two of them.

    1. Recently started putting keyword into name. Debated about putting it here. And did so this time to find out the reaction of others as to they also are put off by it.

    2. Have always put in the URL. Never considered this wrong. Why would the option be there?

    So far, nothing bad has happened, but I am also not a very frequent comment person, although I would like that to change.

    Lots of food for thought and waiting to hear what others think.

    David

  3. Spencer

    Nice post! Usually when I comment on blogs I do not think about backlinks and try to leave a pertinent comment about that post. I feel that auto blog comment software usually sets red flags with bloggers. I found this post to be extremely helpful. Thank you.

  4. Mark Thurston

    Great post. I have gotten one comment, with links in it to a commercial site, but the site was actually helpful to the blog’s target audience. Also the comment was 700 words (longer than the post), well thought out and obviously written for only my blog post. (Not copy/pasted).
    In many ways, it is a ‘spam’ comment, but it brings so much good information with it, it was worth keeping. I will probably even ask the commenter to guest blog a post!
    Hard to always rely on auto plug-in’s decisions as to what is spam and what may be worthwhile even when it looks like spam (or is). Using an auto delete of comments (to me) seems no better than using an auto-blogging plug-in. Saves time, but it can also cause one to lose very good info that can enhance your post’s value… even if it is really spam!
    (On the other hand, I sometimes allow those stupid one liners. Why? I can only think a newbie would be the only one stupid enough to post it and probably after being ripped of by buying an e-book by some ‘guru’ that mis-led them to believe that is a good thing to do. If their email bounces, I do delete them! As I do e-mail them and inform them that that is not a kosher way to get back-links… and highly ineffective as well. Yeah, I know… I am a softy and a sucker. Lol.)
    -I never put a commercial link in a blog comment. I do not comment on blogs for the back-link. Other people seem to be linking to my ‘properties’ faster than I could spam blogs anyway.-

    1. Arindam

      Thanks for dropping by Mark. I missed ya quite a lot! :)

      “also the comment was 700 words ”

      Just to point out to everyone (Mark already knows it), sometimes Akismet even filters long comments as spam, even if the commenter is a regular one. It used to happen quite often with Mark, and I am glad that this time Akismet made an exception and put his comment in moderation queue instead of spam queue :)

  5. Scott Galichus

    There are ways around Akismet’s filters.

    1. Use a proxy
    2. Use a different e-mail
    3. Use a url proxy like tinyurl or bit.ly.
    4. Use a different name

    The above combination will get your comments past the screen.

    And there are a lot of auto commenting progs that allow you to use all the above and rotate them on autopilot.

    Use about 30 to 40 variations and you’re golden.

    It’s easy to get around comment screens with generic comments too.

    Use things like

    “Your blog didn’t show correctly until I cleaned out my Firefox cache. Hope this tip helps other users”

    Be creative and auto progs work well!

    I use one that posts to 3K blogs in 30 minutes. By using the rotation scheme I never get caught.

    And even if 20% of those I posted to get through, I still get about 500 links.

    Every problem has a solution!

  6. Alec Tritton

    I entirely agree, so many comments are made to my 90+ blogs by spammers. Most I just trash, but the ones that I really hate are those that are posted to my resources page which say something like “great post” etc. it isn’t in fact a post but a page for my three way linking system. I have found that using the plugin wp-recaptcha resolves most of the problems – requires commenting individuals to complete two words as well. Any comment that comes through akismet, wp-spamfree and wp-recaptcha (and this is now very few) will be read and provided relevant will be accepted on any of my blogs

    1. Arindam

      Hi Alec,

      I don’t favor captchas that much: I think they hurt more (by driving away good commenters) than help (the hardcore spammers would do anything to post a “spammy” comment). I mainly use captchas in contact forms. Regarding WP spam free, you may want to note that it is now no longer supported (at least last time I checked). I posted an update here:

      http://flexiblewriter.com/huge-list-of-cool-wordpress-plugins-part-1#SpamControlPlugin

      On another note, just a fyi, Akismet put your comment in spam queue, not sure if it is because of the comment length or not. ;)

  7. Debra Garrison

    I knew I needed akismet on my blog, but I never knew how it worked . The light bulb went off and I know now how to be a more responsible blog owner as well as a comment poster

  8. Rob Barclay

    Great post i will check back soon….

    Hahaha only joking, though it is a great post :)

    I was guilty for about 6 months of using Brute Force (Peter Drew) software and it got to the point I was actually cringing at the amount of Sh*t i was putting on the web that had no value at all, yes you can automate setting up 10 blogs, 5 twitter accounts, rss feeds, article spinning blog and forum posting etc etc but at the end of the day all you are doing is making a rod for your own back.

    There are lots of software out there that just creates gallons of spam not just peter drews software but in an ideal world if no one actually used this spamming software everyone would find it easier to rank as you would not be competing against 100 million spam sites!

    The software would generate 5 blogs and spin articles from article directories and automatically link them to each other then it would syndicate all of these blogs and rss them to the rss networks and finally setup automated accounts on over 100 forums and post all these links into your profile etc that is without the creation and auto follow on twitter etc. all in around 30 minutes!

    Less spam and more value is the answer.

    No doubt i added around 10,000 inbound links to the target site in less than 3 months but the value of these links did little for the site so is it all worth it?

    Good SEO Rankings is the simplest thing in the world in my opinion you just need to be honest, proactive and provide a great site!

    Write good quality content.
    Write descriptive keyword rich meta descriptions.
    get links from related sites that are happy to link or exchange with you.
    keep your site fresh.

    1. Arindam

      Hi Rob,

      6 months with Brute force means quite a lot of money I guess. :)

      Anyway, since when could SEO be fully automated with software? :P Best thing is to outsource SEO to an honest firm if you don’t want to do it yourself, but investing in SEO tools (apart from link checkers and keyword tools) is a waste of money IMO. :P

      One of my commenters has a good review on Brute force you may want to read:
      http://www.ademartin.com/online-biz-and-views/is-peter-drews-bruteforce-seo-a-scam-comparison-senuke-review/

  9. Brenda Svoboda

    Hi Arindam,

    Glad I read this post. I get a lot of spam on one of my other blogs, which I readily mark as such. I rarely comment on other blogs unless the niche is very related to mine. What are your thoughts about backlink subscriptions? It seems to me that if they are using the same links for everybody, that could ultimately be considered spam as well.

    Cheers,

    Brenda

    1. Arindam

      @Brenda

      >>What are your thoughts about backlink subscriptions? It seems to me that if they are using the same links for everybody, that could ultimately be considered spam as well.

      Exactly what you said. ;)

      I would say the backlink packets are great for newbies who are struggling with seo, but when you get a strong foothold in SEO, you should find your own backlinks.

  10. Scott Galichus

    Most of the auto tools out there let you search for blogs and sites in your niche.

    They are way more effective for link juice than other methods.

    UWCS is a nifty cheap of software and works well. Also SEnuke is pretty good.

    Like any software, you will only get good results if you use them well and wisely.

    Brute Force is not getting you links in your niche. It’s getting you “generic” links much like Angel’s packets.

    Find your own backlinks! There are lots of tools to find sites in your niche and get the PR rank for the site too.

    Better to get links from high PR sites in your niche. The vote counts for more.

    But as stated everywhere and anywhere, it’s about content too. Longevity is another big factor.

    Don’t try to guess how to rank well with SEO. Just do everything and hope.

    Even when you do find the magic G will steal it away eventually.

  11. Arindam

    I have to agree with the last line of what Scott says :D

    “Even when you do find the magic G will steal it away eventually.”

  12. Scott Galichus

    Oh! And remember to cover your tracks! Use VPN and rotating proxy covers and your posts will go through!

    I use a free VPN called hotspot shield when doing auto stuff.

    A lot of marketers consider automated tools as black hat. They are really just automated tools.

    Don’t think of it as black hat. ALL the big companies use automation.

    If you consider automation black hat then ALL SE’s and outsourced linking, posting, etc. services are black hatters.

  13. Randy Brickhouse Sr.

    A few weeks ago, I purchased a package that has thousands of high PR sites that I’m supposed to be able to comment on. Some of the sites I have gone to have been duds, however, overall it’s a pretty good listing.

    I’ve been able to leave some very nice comments, and get a backlink. A lot of tedious work sifting through the sites, but I do what I have to do. I’ve been working on the .edu, and .gov sites.

    I have read that these types of sites carry more weight with Google. I have always preferred to use my name, and photo, because I just feel this is more professional.

    Thanks and God bless.

  14. Loretta

    Askimet does a great job of catching spam comments & is a real time saver – I love it.

    As for the page rank packets, I have purchased a few & they do seem like spam to me. I know absolutely nothing about a subject like chemical engineering or Japanese anime & joining a community just to put my link in my profile on their forum makes me feel like a spammer.

  15. DeAnna Troupe

    Good post. I didn’t realize that akismet was that random in how it decides what comments are spam. Most of the time it does get that part right on my blogs. I have it set to manually approve all comments before I post them. I do see a lot of obvious spam comments and wonder what the commenter thinks they are going to gain from that comment.

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  17. JohnGG

    I always wondered about Akismet. I have about 20 blogs and get hundreds of crappy comments. I also have Akismet insatlled but no key in them. Duh! I am off to fix that now.

    Cheers
    johnGG

    1. Arindam

      JohnCG,

      I know it is tedious but personally I get a new key for each of my blogs, unless the blog is closed to comments. From what I have heard, the moment your blog(s) start processing more than 10k comments per month, you need to pay Akismet a $5 per month fee or so. So, spreading it out should generally delay the paid upgrade :P

  18. Paul Schlegel

    My rule of commenting has always been that I won’t comment unless I’m willing to actually *participate* in the discussion.

    The thought of outsourcing commenting makes me cringe, so I would love to see you do a post specifically on that and how to do it successfully and in a high-quality way.

    I think you’re english is great, btw.

    1. Arindam

      Hi Paul,

      I am still doing my own backlinks. Duh! I would like to outsource soon. :P Actually I DID outsource to some folks but generally did not like the work much, for a variety of reasons :)

  19. Putra Eka

    I have tried so many things to comment in the high pagerank blogs. I think some keywords are blocked by akismet, and if your email blocked you can use another email.

    But the most important thing like said above, leave relevant comment

  20. Suzanne Morrison

    Thanks for this comprehensive post. I get a lot of spam on my blogs daily and I am often amazed at what some people say, thinking that it is actually going to get published! On the plus side, at least all the time they are spending publishing useless spammy comments on other people’s blogs will probably result in zero backlinks :)

    I use Akismet, but never knew the details of how it actually worked, so that was interesting to learn.

  21. Forest

    In my network of bloggers askimet has been raising hell… Many people are going to spam even though we have not marked them as so and askimet are being unhelpful.

    I always leave legit comments :)

  22. Art Howard

    Hi Arindam,

    First, let me just say, I really enjoy all of your posts, even though some of them are very, very, very long. lol

    You really do post very useful and informative information, such as the suggestions on how to determine if you have been blacklisted by Akismet, and how to check if it’s a WordPress Blog…I just tried that right here to make sure I got the error message…I did!

    I have made the mistake of using an SEO name on a number of posts, and wouldn’t you know it, on WordPress blogs too. Hopefully they didn’t get tagged as spam, but thankfully, now I’m a bit more educated on that tactic, thanks to your great post!!!

    Second, you always say somewhere in your posts that it’s going to be another boring post. lol, you are never boring, but you do present a lot of information and sometimes it’s very hard to absorb it all in one reading. So, that’s a good thing. Keeps my mind active.

    Anyway, thanks for the wonderful information.

    Art Howard

  23. Arindam

    Thanks for your kind words Art. :)

  24. Rob Barclay

    i second @Art

    Also i think Arindam you are online as many hours as me each day :D I work 18 hours every day at my pc and I always think people should respond instantly on my websites and they never do, example I have some forums and people will post and ask me a question, I answer it within 60 seconds of them asking then it takes them 2 days to read your answer!

    But like me you seem to be very pro-active! :)

  25. Arindam

    >>I always think people should respond instantly on my websites

    It is always good to assume just the opposite. :P Well I am fairly online for a good amount of time, say 10-12 hours at most, so if you comment when I am sleeping then you won’t hear from me until I wake up :D

  26. Liane

    Sorry, I didn’t find this article boring at all! As a matter of fact I found it really useful as I’m on both sides of the issue. I have a number of WordPress sites and I’m looking into how to get legitimate backlinks. So this is timely and one I’ll keep for reference as I move ahead. Thanks.

  27. Scott Galichus

    I think people will respond when they can and have time.

    To assume that your comment or post will been seen immediately and responded to in kind is way off the deep end.

    Some days I sit and watch and respond to my emails as they come in. Others I might not look at them for hours and then put aside time later for responses etc.

    And that might not be until the next day if I am doing something more urgent.

    I have over 300 sites and have to do a lot of work for them. I can’t possibly drop 1 effort to do responses unless they are vital to my operations.

  28. Scott Galichus

    Did my last post hit the big bit bucket?

    I don’t like when I take the time to post and then get plopped on.

  29. Scott Galichus

    Yes my last post did get hit! I wonder why?

    It was a fairly long post too!

    It was in regards to immediate post responses.

    If you are very busy and have a lot of sites like I do then it’s impossible to babysit and respond immediately.

  30. Arindam

    Hi Scott,

    Yeah, ur first two comments were longer (I think) yet did not get into the spam queue, your third comment was shorter but got in the spam queue (!!), but of course the last comment again did not get into the spam queue. Can you spell w-e-i-r-d? :|

    As a matter of fact, I have retrieved some really good comments (for this post alone) from the spam queue. No wonder I posted this article-I think it is high time to teach every blogger to check their spam queue. :)

    Never mind Akismet, I love all nice comments (including yours) so pls keep them coming. :D

  31. Scott Galichus

    Thanks Arindam!

    This one of the days where I am doing email almost in real time!

    I have a tool that I got form BHW. It is a blog posting tool:

    http://www.thefreeblogcommenter.com/

    It is very easy to use and of course free! It allows you to find blogs by keyword and PR.

    Super simple and very helpful. It is semi automated.

    Check it out. You will like it for sure!

  32. Renee Benzaim

    Hi Arindam,

    After reading your post, I was leary to make a comment!

    I have to take issue with your comment that if we delete posts where the English is bad, we might be considered “prudes.” I had 85 spam posts on one of my blogs the other day and most of them were such poor English I couldn’t even make sense of them!

    So, they all got deleted!

    1. Arindam

      Yeah, I agree. Maybe even I wud delete them, who knows? :D Thankfully I get very few of these commenters anyway. I used to get lots of them when I kept my posts open to comments forever. Now it is very rare. ;)

  33. Brian@Black Mold

    I don’t have as big a problem with blatent spammers as I do the ‘dumb a*s’, these are the legit person not even using a URL at all so you know it’s not a spammer, just a dumb as* that leaves the ‘great blog’ comment with no real purpose to the comment what so ever!

    I certainly don’t want to hit them as a spammer. They obviously are not being malicious, they are just being dumb.

    Maybe someone can come up with a
    “DUMB A*S” commenter plugin. When they use those ‘being dumb’ traits the plugin would flash up a lightbox saying “HEY, WAKE UP AND MAKE A REAL COMMENT!!!”.

    What do you think? Wouldn’t that be a hoot!

  34. Rob Barclay

    @brian

    It wouldnt be difficuilt to write a javascript snippet of code that would match certaim keywords and popup an alert or autochange what they wrote to something else like “Comment replaced due to offering no value to the blog”

    @arindam

    I read that review on Brute Force and have to say I agree with the reviewer there was lots of problems in the operation of the software I simply utilised the bits that worked and gave up on the many parts of the modules that didnt.

    Im actually writing a website app that will be 100% unique and will give anyone 8 unique links to their website just for giving 1 in return, so it will be a 8 inbound links all unique from different people and websites in return for 1 link from their site, no point in asking me about it as it is probably at least 6 months away as I am having to work on it between paid projects, still got a mortgage to pay :)

  35. Ade Martin

    Hi Arindam,

    Thanks for the mention earlier, it’s much appreciated.

    I find it quite amusing that no-follow started as Google’s answer to blog comment spam and along come apps like Keyword Luv who radically embrace the do-follow scene and then have the nerve to do a complete 180 and as justification inform us, and I quote, “So why are people abandoning DoFollow? The answer is comment spam.”.

    Well, like, Hmmm! Who would have believed that huh? How can we give these people any credibility at all?

    Without going into too much of a rant, Internet marketers have created a belief that people can spend a few minutes creating hundreds of autoblogs, spend a few more minutes blasting out automated blog comments and they will be rich.

    This in turn leads to frustration and in many cases desperation. I am not a do gooder by any means, heck I’m an Internet marketer, but I firmly believe that we have an obligation to our readers to deliver what we say.

    That’s not really off topic because comment spam is the start of losing respect for your business and yourself so who the heck is going to buy from you anyway? I have to reinforce the point in the main post about using SEO-ed names. Using keyword stuffed names like “Terry Fat Loss 4 Idiots Review Jones” or “Pete Natural Haemorrhoid Cures Davies” absolutely says a lot about the commenter, and it’s all bad!

    Personally I find it embarrassing to do this and if you are reading a serious and informative blog, like Arindam’s for instance, which always gives solid information, then I consider it a mark of disrespect and demonstrates a lack of professional courtesy to comment in this way.

    In the interest of full disclosure :-) I openly admit to keyword stuffing in the past. We all have to learn.

    I can’t comment on Akismet as it just seems to work for me with no hiccups but I appreciate the information on what to be aware of.

    High PR blog and forum lists are definitely something to be careful of. It’s better to find your own than buy lists. I used to use these extensively with little results. Like most things in Internet marketing it’s all smoke and mirrors. They are cheap enough to buy, which makes me disbelieve the claims about “only 50 packets being sold”, but then we have to weigh up whether the results are worth the costs of either your time or outsourcing.

    I like the idea from Brian about the “DUMB A*S” commenter plugin” :-))

    Take Care,

    Ade

    P.S. There are some great comments here.

  36. hima buston

    So, That’s why or the reason my comment sometimes just… couldn’t post.

    I guess Akismet really do it’s stuff.

    Anyway, your suggestion to throw away captcha solution interest me, as I usually put captcha to send away spammer, and yess! I do miss all the good commentor (they run away too)

    Very well perspective Arindam, love to see more from you.

  37. Steve

    I have two or three blogs that get some serious attention from spam comment experts. Every time I go to the Dashboard I see the same rotation of 5 or 6 different comments.

    It’s kind of funny sometimes, but really frustrating too. I have some family related sites and get people wanting to put links to their adult sites on them – like that is going to fly…

    I also get the guys who try to start a false controversy to link out to some money making ebook. They say “Why did you delete my useful comments that I personally use to make $900 a day…” and then trail off into their pitch.

    The rest seem to be non-English speaking guys who tell me of “Extremely beneficient response motives…” that they get from my blogs. Then they tell me how they are going to post my RSS feed to their web portals…

    Uggh, sorry to go on, just nice to vent on some of the garbage I see every day. If someone would just try to post something that shows they read a post and had something legit to say about it, I would approve the comments (except for the adult stuff).

  38. Arindam

    Hi Steve,

    Two plugins you may want to take a look at:

    http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/15/delink-comment-author-1-4
    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/remove-links-in-comments/

    (though the second one might be a tad overkill)

  39. Michael

    Wow,I get a lot of spam on my blogs. I added the Akismet to my word press and it stopped almost all spam. Captcha has been suggested to me before. I just dont like the idea.

  40. JS Refi

    You would not mind most comments, but I am sure you would hate it if you get a comment with 10s of penis enlargement link in them. One of my blog is attracting those sort a lot. I am thinking of disabling comments altoghether on that blog, because they won’t stop.

  41. Arindam

    >>I am sure you would hate it if you get a comment with 10s of penis enlargement link in them

    I don’t even get to mind coz honestly Akismet stops almost all of them ;) But yeah, disabling comments is an even better idea, although you would still need to have Akismet in place for the spammy trackbacks. ;)

    On another note, this post is attracting a record number of spammers for sure. :P Only one or two managed to get through Akismet but I deleted and also banned them anyway :D

  42. Scott Galichus

    I don’t even get why those people pushing penis enlargement or sex toys try to make posts on regular blogs.

    There are enough places on the net that are a lot more savvy for them to post. Face it, the net is full of porn sites, chat groups, forums, and blogs that cater to their freaky stuff.

    And disabling commenting would
    1. Not allow any new and unique content on your blog (unless you wrote it)

    2. Negate the concept or need for a blog (you might as well just call it a website)
    3. Discourage blog surfers from even coming to your blog. The whole idea is to share ideas.

    There are a lot of reasons to allow comments and very few for not allowing them.